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Getting into medical school: Part 1, college choice and grades

Since so many people reading this could be working in fire and EMS to get prepared for medical school, I thought I would take a little time and talk about my thoughts on this. For the people reading clinicalbraintraining.com who are in med school already, go back to studying or go see your patients.

First, my qualifications to talk about this. Other than being an MD for 24 years, and getting into med school along with my wife, my wife and I were both on the admissions committee at MCV/VCU in our senior years and participated completely: evaluation of applications, interviewing applicants, and sitting in and voting on final decisions. Also, I have worked with hundreds of medical students over these 22 years, and I always make a point of finding out: where you went to college, what your major was, and your path to medical school. From this, I have been able to draw many conclusions about how to become a physician. I have little or no experience with DO admissions, but in general, everything is fairly similar, except your GPA and MCAT scores can be lower (about 0.2 for GPA, and about 15% lower for MCATS, these are estimates). Also, all my sons want to be physicians, so I have had to relearn some of the statistics and strategies.

Lets go through the factors and my strong opinions about them. If you are medical student or college student and think I’m wrong, you are probably wrong. If you are a Dean of Admissions at a MD or DO school and think I’m wrong, please write in and tell me where I am incorrect so the readers get the best information.

College choice: In my opinion, meaningless. There is  absolutely no reason to choose an Ivy league school over a state school solely for the purpose of improving your chance of getting in. Can you get into med school from VCU? Absolutely. Can you get in from Elon college? Absolutely. Can you get in from Liberty University? Absolutely. I have worked with multiple medical students at UVA from all these colleges. In fact one of the physicians I respect most went to community college for 2 years, then finished his degree , and was accepted at multiple places. Med school costs money, and debt hurts. While there may be other solid reasons to go to Harvard over Penn State, improving your chances at med school admissions is a very weak one. Spending $50,000/year at Princeton vs spending $15,000 at Ohio State will increase your debt by $140,000 BEFORE YOU EVEN BEGIN MEDICAL SCHOOL. And then you add the debt from medical school. If you know you want to be a physician, go to a solid school and do well and you’ll get in. If you go to Yale and have a 3.2 GPA and get a 21 on your MCATS will you get into med school? You probably have less than a 15% chance of getting in. If you go to Iowa Stae and have a 3.7 and a 28 on the MCATS, you have a 60% chance. Nuff said

Grades: You only need to remember one thing: GPA, GPA, GPA, etc. What does it mean to a med school admissions committe if you have a 3.2? It means you have trouble gathering information, processing it, and delivering that information when asked for. What do you do in med school? Gather information, process it, and deliver it. What do you do as a doctor? Gather information, process it, and deliver it. If you cant do that, you’re screwed. Do med schools care if you’re taking the high level organic chem, vs the low level “pre-med” organic chem? If someone told you they do, think of this: that admissions committee sees 10,000 applications, often they have a GPA cutoff before they even open your file (usually around 3.1-3.2) so you have a 3.0, you’re gone and they wont open your file and know what course you took. Lets say they dont filter and the file makes it to a reviewer, do you actually think that the admissions committee member knows the difference between organic chem 2301 at Harvard and organic chem 252 at UVA???  They have no idea. Maybe if youre from the same institution, they have some concept of the numberic of honors courses, but invariably they dont. So get as high a GPA as humanly possible, especially your science GPA.

I recommend you take the lowest level science courses you can for pre-med unless you are CERTAIN you can get an A. Talk to people who have taken the higher level course, look at the grade distribution, go to the web and research. If 10% of students get an A, there’s a 90% chance YOU WON’T. Will it make a difference as to the type of doctor you will become? No. Will it prepare you better for med school? Simple answer, no. More complex answer – maybe, but if you dont get into med school, you’ll never know if it prepared you better.

Next post – extracurricular activity and medical experience.

 

Calling for help…

A discussion of when to call for help, and how to respond. Also, what we need to do in medicine to better define our core competencies and abilities. A little of my sax playing at the beginning and end. Be safe, JY

Learning..

In many academic medicine situations (and others in Fire and EMS) the immediate supervisor, or slightly more senior provider is often the one teaching the novice something. This is often a matter of expediency since in the middle of the night, the attending, Chief, etc is not there to teach. But I worry that in many disciplines, learners never see a real expert do something. An example is in some mid-level operating room procedures. In many of these the senior resident is taking the junior resident through the case with the attending watching. In those cases, it is likely that the junior resident’s only experience with the procedure is having watched another junior resident taken through the case by another senior resident.

Thus, that junior resident, and possibly the senior resident, have never watched someone who has done 100 of these cases perform the case. There are a lot of things that can be learned by watching an expert do something. I remember my experience from a rotation at a private hospital during my residency. At this hospital, the residents were often first assistants to the attending surgeons. It was the first time I first assisted in my residence on major operations (since usually the attending first assists the senior resident in major cases in academics).  It was very eye opening. Expert surgeons have a different way of proceeding through a case, it appears more like a task than an adventure. They go from task A to task B to task C with little wasted motion. They know the next step and they anticipate it, sometimes moving my hands so I could begin to expose for the next step, since they didnt need the exposure for the step they were on. Anticipation and pre-planning were evident and really moved the cases along. Also since they knew the anatomy, and how to separate structures, there was less bleeding. If theres less bleeding you can see better, and the case moves quicker.

I have told my senior residents that you don’t operate fast by operating fast. You operate fast by knowing what comes next and making sure you’re prepared for the next step, and by taking your time during the critical steps to make sure you get it right the first time. There is a great phrase “there is never enough time to do it right, but always enough time to do it over” that applies. Doing something quickly and wrong takes far more time than doing something slow and correctly.

If you have the opportunity to be with someone with a great deal of experience, watch the way that they do things, not just with their hands, but how they think, how they anticipate, and how they plan the next step. Sometimes great commanders do this in such a way that it is transparent (going to get a stretcher, a piece of equipment, making a radio call for more help before needing it , etc.). Taking the time  to talk to experienced people, understanding why they do things the way they do, and taking their path through a problem can enhance your education in any field.

What we are doing wrong in measuring hospital quality and safety..

I opened up the ACS news and saw my chief resident’s smiling face. He presented a paper demonstrating that procedural volume does not correlate with mortality, thus destroying a popular quality measure. In it he says that finding out what really does effect quality is the “billion dollar” question.

A year ago, after a great deal of frustration with the quality measures that were being propagated, I wrote the document I have attached. I sent it to various powers that be nationally, and naturally didn’t hear anything. I invite you to read it and think about it. Evidence is rare and weak for anything related to examination of processes, and I hate to put another unsubstantiated model for patient safety out there, but you can read it and decide.

Here is the link:

AnRealisticAssessmentSystemforHospitalSafetyandQuality doc

JY

Website

I’ve been remiss about keeping posts going on the website, even though I’ve been pretty steady with a weekly podcst. I will try to put more stuff on the site to read, starting today.

Mental muscle memory…

Mental muscle memory is one the most important things to cultivate when you are learning clinical medicine. It is the process of training yourself to respond in certain ways to certain stimuli. Even if you are facing a completely novel situation, mental training will allow you to carry out the essential tasks in the evaluation without wasting mental energy, that way you can devote all your attention to the novel signs, symptoms, and hazards that you are encountering.
Fire and EMS often do this much better than we do in the hospital. It is rare that a medical student or intern is taught “here are the five things you need to do every time you are in a clinical encounter”, or “when placing a femoral line these are the seven steps you need to carry out to do this safely”. Often in medicine, we tell novices to “watch this a few times”, and then “give it a shot”. If the mentor is good, they will talk about all the steps they are taking to carry out the procedure or encounter, and make certain that the novice understands all the steps. The next step is often not taken, and that is then asking the novice to “talk through” the entire procedure by themselves before they move onto another task. This last step is essential to creating muscle memory, and essential to learning, and it is often not done.
It is puzzling that these educational exercises are not an intrinsic part of the educational process for physicians, and I think if we are going to move to a safer medical culture, they will need to be. In many ways, physicians often have an irrational resistance to any attempt to “cookbook” medical care. I think for many physicians that trained in the 70’s and 80’s they may be a lost cause at this point, since these attitudes are pretty ingrained. But we need to make certain we do not allow these attitudes to gain a foothold in younger physicians.
Here are some muscle memory exercises, and I will put a bunch together for a Kindle offering soon;
1. Step by step account of how to move from recognition of respiratory arrest, to placement of a secure airway. This is probably a 20 step evolution and will often take place under high pressure, therefore it is vitally important to embed these steps.
2. Step by step account of resuscitating a patient with severe medical hypotension. What orders? What labs? Fluids? Antibiotics? Cultures? Etc.
3. Step by step evolution of placing a thoracostomy tube, or a central line

I am not going to write out these steps right now, because people will transfer their disagreement to the steps that I write out, while what I want is for people to realize that the broad concept of consistent clinical thinking is the key, not the individual steps.
JY

Fast and slow thinking…

Everyone interested in learning how we learn, should read Daniel Kahneman’s recent book “Thinking Fast and Slow”. I have read a great deal of his work before, and I find it amazing to read something that actually explains the way that your brain works. It makes some sense that you can improve the way you make decisions by understand the way you decide.
The book and the generally accepted concept is that we think in two ways, System 1:intuitive (fast) and System 2: slow and deliberate. Much fast thinking occurs without our awareness of the process. This includes deciding someone in the lane next to you on the highway is about to do something stupid, realizing someone on the phone with you is angry, etc. Slow thinking is the reasoning and weighing of options that we traditionally associate with decision making. In medicine, problems occur when people learn to make bad decisions intuitively, leading to cascades of errors that often leave the person cleaning up with few options.
This is why it is so important to do the following with novice care providers:
1. Make sure you and they agree on the importance of a few basic principles. While it is possible to drill this into someone’s head, even if they don’t accept the reasoning, that is sub-optimal, and that knowledge will probably break down under pressure. Think of anything you have “learned” but that you never really understood (string theory, financial accounting, differential equations, the loop of Henle) and you know that you might be able to figure out the right answer to a question about one of those subjects, but your knowledge is shallow and can get confused very easily. If students don’t understand why airway should come first, it can be dangerous, especially if bad decision processes get ingrained.
2. Practice, practice, practice – you need to bring that intuitive decision making up in the light of day and look at it. The only way is to make people to think fast, and the only way to do that is to put them in situations or simulations that make them think under pressure. We all know it is rare for someone to function effectively in their first high pressure situation, but unfortunately that first high pressure situation may occur with someone’s health and recovery at stake. So its imperative when training to try to determine if your students really “get” it. If they don’t get it, try to figure out why, go through it again, and then look them in the eyes and say “got it now?” and then test them on it one more time. In essence this is what we do on rounds every day, first people do things because we tell them to, then they grudgingly realize that what we say to do makes sense, and then they understand it and teach those things to the next group.
This is also another reason why unneeded variability is so counter-productive. If you do things different ways for no valid reason, people will get confused and think that the process is essentially random. If they get that in their head, it can be difficult to break. We can’t standardize everything, but we should standardize the first 10-15 steps in any algorithm. That way things can get going along a solid path.

Uncertainty

It continues to astound me that a vocation that has been around as long as medicine has, continues to have so many unknowns. We don’t know the best way to teach new clinicians, the best way to measure quality, the best way to measure outcomes, or even a viable consistent method to compare clinical care between practitioners and institutions.
This is certainly not from lack of effort, but it does exemplify the incredible complexity of medical care, and the difficulties inherent in trying to teach people to effectively deliver a service with consistent results.
A big part of the issue is that “optimal” care is such a moving target. Optimal care both in and out of the hospital has changed so many times for several conditions that it really makes you wonder if what we are doing now will not be found to be detrimental in the future. ACLS and BLS are great examples of entities taught with absolute certainty 20 years ago, that now have almost entirely different care processes in 2012.
I think this is a very strong reason for decreasing the amount of factual information we ask our students to learn, and increasing the amount of tactical thinking they do. I think there is about a 0% chance that any medical textbook’s information will not be changed significantly in the next 10 years. So drilling that information into student’s heads will lead to knowledge with a potentially very short half life. However, running students through scenarios where they can identify their knowledge gaps, and then fill them, I believe, will lead to better clinicians in the future.
I did research in education for several years, and was amazed at how much was known about learning that had not made it into medical education. Only in the past 1-2 years have many medical schools begun to embrace some of this information, but we still have no good data to know if those changes are helpful.
Textbooks and multiple choice tests work well for teachers and schools because they allow teachers to give standardized tests, with standardized responses, that generate a bell curve of apparent competence. However, as the military and aviation learned, you cant have someone who knows 85% of what to do and pronounce them competent. 85% of the knowledge of how to land a plane will not work out well. Those domains demand their students to demonstrate 100% mastery of the process 100% of the time, and we should as well.
As students, it is vital that you learn to question the medical knowledge you possess. With the tremendous information access at your disposal, there is no good reason why you couldn’t Google the last 10 peer reviewed papers on diverticulitis within an hour of seeing a patient with that condition. You should then have an intelligent discussion with your teacher about why you are doing things the way you are doing, as long as it doesn’t delay emergent care. In emergent situations, following protocols is vital, but afterwards you should make certain you understand why you did what you did. Any teacher who says “this is the way we do it, because I said so” is not a good teacher, and likely not a very good clinician. Anyone who thinks they can write a care guideline that will be optimal for more than a year is probably deluding themselves. Also, be aware that national guidelines are really the “best guess” of a group of smart and experienced people. That guideline should be where you start learning and understanding what to do, not the end of it.

Here is the lecture on Tactical Decision Making I give to the medical students:

This is the lecture I give to the medical students here. I usually have to run through it pretty quickly so I thought I’d post it here so you could look at it at your leisure.

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JY

Clinical Brain Training How-To Manual

Here is the manual that shows you how to set up simulation sessions similar to what we ran for over 700 students and residents.
The how-to manual tells you the learning objectives, how we construct and present the cases, how to grade responses, and how to provide feedback. Click on the link below and then the same link on the page that comes up to get the PDF file.

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The entire manual is also available for Kindle for $1 to offset the costs of putting up the website and podcast, but I’m certain you would rather get it for free by clicking the link above. If you want to pay a dollar and get the manual for the kindle, just click on the link below:
Clinical Brain Training How-To Manual
JY